Sacred Scriptures, Sacred Killing


“If you kill a man, you’re a murderer. Kill many and you’re a conqueror. Kill ’em all…. You’re a GOD.”

– Captive Honour, Megadeth

Dear Christians,

The Bible  is considered the most printed Religious book aside from the Qur’an  in the world, with more than 6 billion or more copies published. It’s has two parts: the Old Testament, which is comprised of a minimum of 39 books of Hebrew Scriptures, and the New Testament, which has 27 books. The first four books of the New Testament are the canonical Gospels which focuses on the story of the life of Jesus Christ.

The Holy Bible, as Christians call it, is also the main source of Christian moral beliefs and information about a “loving father”, God. However, this so-called “loving father” does not seem very loving when you read the Bible. According to the Bible, “god” is a promoter of genocide, rebellion and death penalty. The Bible also permits human sacrifices to please god on special occasions.  Hard to believe?

Here are some evils that are justified by the Bible in the name of an almighty, loving “god”:

1. Blasphemers must be executed.

10 Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke out in the camp between him and an Israelite. 11 The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name with a curse; so they brought him to Moses. (His mother’s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri the Danite.) 12 They put him in custody until the will of the LORD should be made clear to them. 13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 “Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: ‘Anyone who curses their God will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.”

– Leviticus 24:10-16 (New International Version, ©2011)

2. Anyone who performs human sacrifice to those god doesn’t like must be put to death. Stoning is preferred.

1 “The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molek is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him. 3 I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 4 If the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molek and if they fail to put him to death, 5 I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek.”

– Leviticus 20:1-5 (New International Version, ©2011)

3.  If a woman loses her virginity before marriage, she must be stoned to death.

20 “If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.”

– Deuteronomy 22:20-21 (New International Version, ©2011)

4.  People who work on Sabbath must be put to death.

14 “‘Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do any work on that day must be cut off from their people.”

– Exodus 31:14 (New International Version, ©2011)

5.  Homosexuals must be put to death.

13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

– Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version, ©2011)

6. Human Sacrifice to “God” is perfectly okay.


Mosaic Law forbids human sacrifice  and any one who commit it is surely be put to death. But, that’s because the said sacrifice is intended for the other gods and not to this loving father. But if god wants human sacrifice, that’s okay. You may kill your spawn in the name of ‘god’.

29 “Then the Spirit of the LORD came on Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites. 30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”  32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon. 34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break.” 36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the LORD. Do to me just as you promised, now that the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.” 38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin. From this comes the Israelite tradition 40 that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.

– Judges 11:29-40 (New International Version, ©2011)

The Crucifixion of Jesus is another form of human sacrifice to please god and forgive all the sinners. Go ask your Pastor or Priest to confirm this.

7.  God manipulates human emotion or feelings to display his awesomeness or his arrogance.

3 “But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt.”

– Exodus 7:3 (New International Version, ©2011)

20 “But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not let the Israelites go.”

– Exodus 10:20 (New International Version, ©2011)

That led to the infamous 10 Plagues of Egypt and the death of 1st borns of man and the beast, disregard of age:

29 “At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.”

– Exodus 12:29-30 (New International Version, ©2011)

16 “But I have raised you up[a] for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”

– Exodus 9:16 (New International Version, ©2011)

But you might argue, those examples came from the OT and nothing to the NT.  Sorry, even the “loving” Jesus Christ Superstar has streaks of evil.

8.  Jesus says he’ll destroy, not bring peace.

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— 36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a] 37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”

– Matthew 10:34-37 (New International Version, ©2011)

9. Jesus says he’ll bring  “division”.

49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”
Jesus suggesting killing within family.

– Luke 12:49-53 (New International Version, ©2011)

There are more.

If you’re not convinced, there is nothing for me to do. You’re now experiencing what we call Absolute Denial as a form of defense to your belief. Others call it Blind Faith. The only cure is opening your eyes and accepting the fact that your Holy Bible tells you to do evil.

The choice is yours.

Your Loving son,
God Slayer

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22 thoughts on “Sacred Scriptures, Sacred Killing

  1. This is just the tip of the iceberg. It’s a great intro for those who profess to be Christians but don’t even read the Bible.

  2. Good post. Too bad you didn’t include Moses’s campaign to kill everyone in his way and get the land god promised them.

  3. Yeah it is true that the Holy Bible is the most printed religious book but no matter how many prints they made everything will be useless if the those versions are flawed. NIV is commonly criticize by many theologians as New Inaccurate Version or NIV one example of many faulty bible English versions.

    To point out one of your list, the reason why the Ammonites and Moabites are cursed because they are the product of incest. According to the biblical account, Genesis 19:37-38, Ammon and Moab were born to Lot and Lot’s younger and elder daughters, respectively, in the aftermath of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Incest is clearly forbidden in the laws of Yahweh so who’s fault was that?

    Before you conclude a list of Evil things justified by the Bible make sure you know what you’re talking about, little knowledge is in fact dangerous. You can’t break down the first step you took while you are climbing a steep stairs because the structure you are standing might collapse on you and knock your head down to the ground. The point of no return is hard to conclude when you only have one chance we are actually blessed because we have all of our time to prepare.

    When you try to quote any verse in the Bible try to read the whole thing because grammar, paragraphs, sentences, etc… are important in understanding a particular message. When you buy a lego toy kit and you need all parts that comes with it to create a specific item how can you complete the plan when one if the piece is missing?

    An open minded person is the same as undecided, now is your mind set is firmed to the conclusion that you are certain on what you have understand in the bible?

    • All one needs is common sense. In what context shall we take all the murder, rape, slavery, incest, etc?

    • Rather than telling us how shallow the “writer” is in regard to his understanding about the bible, try to refute every accusations made by the “author”, if its really not written and just an invention/twisting by the “author”..

      defend your bible if its stained in blood or not..

      defend your god as a loving, understanding, omni-benevolent and peaceful father And not an arrogant, genocidal, violent and blood lust god.

      • if god is in fact a blood appetite god what kind of blood does he desire to shed? is it for the righteous and people that follow his commandments or the people that disobey his laws?

  4. Notice Megadeth emphasized that “kill ém all… you’re A god” not THE god theres only ONE god that claimed has the capability of killing both your flesh and your soul god of all gods and king of all kings.

    1. Blasphemers that are not repentant will suffer the consequences…
    “My holy name I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My holy name be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. Behold, it is coming and it shall be done,” declares the Lord GOD. “That is the day of which I have spoken. –Ezekiel 39:7-8

    2. http://www.honestmediatoday.com/jrm_victims/Molek.jpg
    Molek or Molech was an ancient fire deity, of a common type worshipped throughout Canaan generally, and Phoenicia particularly. Under various names, depending upon the city or country, Molech is essentially identical with Chemosh of Moab, and probably Melqart of Tyre. The general name for this type of fire god used throughout Palestine was Baal, meaning ‘lord.’ Molech was the national deity of the country of Ammon, east of the Jordan, or the Ammonites. Molech was also worshipped by the Israelites on many occasions, much to the distress of the prophets…
    http://www.roytaylorministries.com/am01224.htm
    Many English bible translated Yahweh as lord which is wrong that is why it important to study Hebrew and Greek versions of the bible because there’s no problem with that translation; because it is the most oldest and most clear and accurate translation.

    3. In humans, promiscuity refers to undiscriminating casual sex with many sexual partners. The term carries a moral or religious judgement and is viewed in the context of the mainstream social ideal for sexual activity to take place within exclusive committed relationships. Promiscuity is considered a less restrained sex drive. What sexual behavior is considered “promiscuous” varies between cultures as does the prevalence of promiscuity, with different standards often being applied to different genders and civil status. A promiscuous female is sometimes pejoratively called a slut. Promiscuity is very often portrayed in literature, cinema and television, for example in the popular series Sex and the City.

    Promiscuity is common in many animal species. Some species have promiscuous mating systems, ranging from polyandry and polygyny to mating systems with no stable relationships where mating between two individuals is a one-time event. Many species form stable pair bonds but still mate with other individuals outside the pair. In biology, incidents of promiscuity in species that form pair bonds are usually called extra-pair copulations.
    Since at least 1450, the word slut has been used, usually pejoratively, to describe a sexually promiscuous woman. In and before the Elizabethan and Jacobean eras, terms like “strumpet” and “whore” were used to describe women deemed promiscuous, as seen for example in John Webster’s 1612 play The White Devil.

    If you consider your self as one of any promiscuous animal species go ahead nobody is stopping you but you gotta remember the consequences.

    4. Observe semicolon between the sentence it doesn’t mean you’ll be put to death after you disobeyed the sabbath if you are repentant you might be forgiven remember that this is one of the reason why God send Yahshuah so we can have redemption over sin.

    5. Homosexuality let’s educate our selves.
    Men are more affected by HIV and AIDS in the United States than women. Male adult or adolescents accounted for 3 out of 4 new HIV diagnoses and new AIDS diagnoses in the U.S. in 2009.

    The HIV transmission route leading to the most AIDS diagnosis in 2009 was male-to-male sexual contact, followed by heterosexual contact and injection drug use.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) publish HIV statistics for 40 states and 5 dependent areas with confidential name-based HIV infection reporting. AIDS statistics include all 50 states and the District of Columbia, as well as the 5 dependent areas.
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    Having already garnered three “Golden Globe” awards, “Buttcrack Mountain” is sure to get some major award. If you still don’t believe that Hollywood has an anti-Christian, pro-exploitation agenda, please recall that last year, the Academy completely snubbed the highest grossing film of all time, Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ.” Welcome to Babylon Incorporated!

    Here is a short list of some of the diseases that are shared and spread abroad by deathfags, especially by those who “go both ways” and share their death culture with the opposite sex:

    AIDS
    Syphilis
    Gonorrhea
    Typhoid fever (caused by ingesting human feces via anilingus)
    Herpes (from fellatio)
    Gay Bowel Syndrome
    Hepatitis (due to ingesting feces and smearing feces on their bodies)
    (According to one study, the average homosexual male has from twenty to 100 sex partners per year, with half of these encounters involving the swallowing of semen, ¾ of these encounters involving anal intercourse, and 25% involving ingested feces. The “liberal” networks have been telling us for decades now that we are supposed to accept this as “normal.”) REALLY, THIS IS CALLED NORMAL EVERYBODY?

    Due to their multiple sex partners, at any given time, 80% of these deathfags will be carrying some sort of venereal disease.

    One of the advantages homosexuals have over families is that, since they don’t have to raise or support children, they have much more “disposable income.” With this extra money, they can hop planes from New Babylon to San Fagcisco and infect each other from coast to coast. They can spend all their money on self-indulgence…and what’s left they donate to their pandering politicians.

    Homosexuality is psychologically unhealthy because it is based on sex obsession. Since it is a culture of self-indulgent wantonness, deathfags need to feed their lust in increasingly bizarre ways. Sadism and sadomasochism are often on the menu. You may have noticed that serial killers John Wayne Gacy and Geoffrey Dahmer were homosexuals who had a taste for death and sex. Homosexuality and murder often go together. Torture and risky sex are always likely when deathfags get together, especially when drugs and alcohol are added to the mix. They complain about “gay-bashing,” but fags are much more likely to be killed by each other.

    Up to 50% of suicides are committed by homosexuals. What’s the matter? Are we normal people not letting them have enough sex? As things get more and more kinky, these lost souls start to play deadly sex games, including deliberate oxygen deprivation with nooses tied around their necks. Combining orgasm with the thrill of a near-death experience is, to me, the exact opposite of what sex is for. Maybe I’m just old-fashioned! Silly me!

    Homosexuals make up the vast proportion of pedophiles. Just look at what is happening in the Catholic Church. The priests obviously prefer boys to girls. Groups that promote adult-child sex (such as NAMBLA, whose motto is “Sex before 8, before it’s too late”) should be outlawed, if not castrated. These predators are always seeking sex with underage

    by: http://anglo-saxonisrael.com/site/node/32

    6. Ammonites and Maobites are the product of Incest therefore thy are cursed no theologians actually have any problem about this understanding only the people that are not familiar wirth the bible, and the anti-christ people.

    7. Isaiah 13: 5-11 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his wrath to destroy all the land. Howl for the day of YHWH is at hand. It shall come as destruction from the almighty…Behold the day of the Lord comes, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it…And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogance of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible

    Isaiah 66: 15 For behold, the LORD will come in fire And His chariots like the whirlwind, To render His anger with fury, And His rebuke with flames of fire.

    Isaiah 66: 16 For the LORD will execute judgment by fire And by His sword on all flesh, And those slain by the LORD will be many.
    Zephaniah 1:18 Neither their silver nor their gold Will be able to deliver them On the day of the LORD’S wrath; And all the earth will be devoured In the fire of His jealousy, For He will make a complete end, Indeed a terrifying one, Of all the inhabitants of the earth.

    Luke 21: 25-26 there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations… for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

    Acts 2: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

    The coming day of Yahweh:

    For, behold, the day cometh,that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith Yahweh of host, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. –Malachi 4:1

    Any atheist don’t have to believe this alright, just for the believers that god will kill for the sake of the righteous… and unrighteous killing…

    8.“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. that’s the bible saying really clear… believe it or not i don’t have to defend the bible the bible defines it self that rendered accordingly.

    9.God will cause division it is true; The LORD God said to the serpent,

    “Because you have done this,
    Cursed are you more than all cattle,
    And more than every beast of the field;
    On your belly you will go,
    And dust you will eat
    All the days of your life;
    And I will put enmity
    Between you and the woman,
    And between your seed and her seed;
    He shall [d]bruise you on the head,
    And you shall bruise him on the heel.”
    To the woman He said,
    “I will greatly multiply
    Your pain [e]in childbirth,
    In pain you will bring forth children;
    Yet your desire will be for your husband,
    And he will rule over you.”
    Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;
    Cursed is the ground because of you;
    In [f]toil you will eat of it
    All the days of your life.
    “Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
    And you will eat the [g]plants of the field;
    By the sweat of your face
    You will eat bread,
    Till you return to the ground,
    Because from it you were taken;
    For you are dust,
    And to dust you shall return.” –Genesis 3;14-19

    Now ask your self is this not true to our days?
    So what side are you on? there’s only two sides NO middle ground.

    For many centuries before the day of vengeance of Yahweh, the churches have preached the certainty of judgment of the wicked. In the generation which will see the execution of this judgment, most churches have discarded that idea. They only preach the idea of a God who is too kind to do anything harsh. The clergy have stressed only the love of Yahshua, and ignored or denied His wrath.

    The goodness of Yahweh could not take the form of rewarding the wicked, while allowing the sufferings of the good to go unavenged. While Yahweh is patient and long suffering, to offer men full opportunity for repentance, there must be a limit to this. We are given one clue in II Esdras 4:33-37. “And I answered and said, How long and when should this be and why are our years few and evil? And he answered me and said, You cannot hurry faster than the Most High: for you hurry for your own self, but He who is above hurries for many. Did not the souls of the upright ask about these things in their rooms, saying, How long must I hope thus? And when will the harvest of our reward come? And Jeremiel the archangel answered them and said, When the number of those who are like you is complete: for He has weighed the world in the balance, and has measured the times with a measure, and carefully counted the hours: and He will not move or disturb them until the prescribed measure is reached.”

    The reward of the good and the punishment of the wicked are only reserved for the great day of Yahweh, which we know is rapidly approaching.

    Isaiah 13:9-11 records, “Behold the day of Yahweh cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and He shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in His going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogance of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.”

    Some people will try to laugh this off by saying, “But that is all in the Old Testament, when God was cruel. But now we know that the gentle Jesus Christ will not take revenge for wickedness.” They only show that they don’t know the New Testament either. Consider these passages from the New Testament recorded in Revelation 19:11-16. “And I saw heaven opened, and behold! a white horse, and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True; and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and upon His head were many crowns; and He had a name written that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood; and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty Yahweh. And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written: King of Kings.”

    The wrath of Yahweh is the only hope for salvation of the good. Psalm 76:7-9 teaches us, “Thou, even Thou art to be feared: and who may stand in Thy sight when once Thou art angry? Thou didst cause judgment to be heard from heaven; the earth feared, and was still. When Yahweh arose to judgment to save all the meek of the earth.”

    The Day of Vengeance by Bertrand L. Comparet Taken From Your Heritage
    http://www.israelect.com/reference/BertrandLComparet/radio/The%20Day%20of%20Vengeance.pdf

    http://comparet.christogenea.org/content/day-wrath-prophecy

    When the fate of all civilization now hangs in the balance, everyone wishes he
    knew what the future holds. You can’t find the answer in any modern publication. Even
    today’s newspapers can give you only yesterday’s news. For tomorrow’s news and
    next year’s news, you must read the Bible, most of this information is in the Old
    Testament.
    Yahweh speaks many prophecies through the prophets who wrote between
    1,800 and 3,300 years ago. Some of these concerned their own times and were fulfilled
    then. However, the greatest of these, and probably the most numerous, concern our
    own day. As the apostle Paul said in I Corinthians 10:11, “ They are written for our
    admonition, upon whom the end of the age is come.”
    Many other prophets remind us of this, especially Daniel. Repeatedly, Yahweh
    emphasized that His word to Daniel was for the last days. Daniel 8:17,19 states,
    “ Understand, O ,son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Behold I will
    make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time
    appointed the end shall be.” Daniel 10:14 goes on to say, “ Now I am come to make
    thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days.”
    Daniel 12:9-10 continues, “ Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and
    sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified and tried; but the wicked shall do
    wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.”
    Besides the internal evidence of the dating of prophecies, Yahweh told Jeremiah twice,
    recorded in Jeremiah 23:20; 30:24, “ In the latter days ye shall consider it.”
    The prophets are speaking to us today, they warn us of the great events now
    shaking the world. They told us how we could avoid the terrible dangers of these days.
    Since Yahweh knows our mulish stubbornness and dense stupidity, they warn us of the
    consequences of our national disobedience.
    The Bible clearly shows the rise and fall of empires is no mere accident, they
    play a part in Yahweh’s plans. When cruel and wicked nations threaten us with slavery
    or destruction, it is for judgment of our disloyalty to Yahweh and His laws. Had we
    obeyed Him, we would never have allowed wickedness to rise to power. In this end of
    the age, Yahweh’s judgments are to begin through the activities of other races and
    nations. Therefore, no warning could be of any use if merely in the abstract, it must tell
    us not only what, but who…
    THE ROD OF YAHWEH’S ANGER by Bertrand L. Comparet
    http://www.israelect.com/reference/BertrandLComparet/radio/The%20Rod%20of%20Yahweh-s%20Anger.pdf

  5. As far as i know, i never heard that explicitly said that god requested human sacrifice in any special occasions in the Bible.

  6. and Cog nex, thanks for citing Gen 3: 14 – 19 for me.. ^_^

    thanks for citing The Curse of God to a serpent, Man and Woman and the Land.. ^_^ you just make things easier for me.. ^_^v

  7. well do you understand what kind of cursed God has given to the serpent, and the man and the woman, and the land? And please make things easier for me too read Judges chapter 11 before you quote about sacrifice, and burn offering. And Genesis as well.

    • the curse and genesis thing is just for me to use someday, but the Judges, its in the article already all you need to do is read it and verify it if god does accepts human sacrifices as an offering.. ^_^

    • thats what we call Absolute Denial due to Blind Faith.. even though its already written in the bible, he still didnt aknowledge the fact that god accepts human sacrifice..

      Parting words: if god is understanding and loving god, he will not let the innocent ones perished just because they were born to a race who believes in other gods..

  8. don’t celebrate yet narrow minded atheist and don’t try to change objects because Judges chapter 11 wasn’t taking about the race that worship other gods. have you read other books in the Bible that talks about the human sacrifices while Judges chapter 11 explains that no human burn offering happened? Common now your just insulting your self atheist. And your insulting the name of Yahweh and his capacity to execute judgment.

  9. Judges 11 is often brought up in polemic attacks on the Bible.

    After a shallow reading of certain verses, often without taking the context of the rest of the chapter into account and almost never considering other relevant portions of the Bible, the critic will spew the following accusations:

    1) Jephthah burns his daughter up as a sacrifice
    2) God approves of this or even commands it
    3) The Bible therefore condones evil
    4) Christians are also evil and are just waiting for a chance to kill us all!!!

    More often than not the critic never actually read or studied the passage in question, and is merely parroting of a website or message board posting by someone else – who also may not have ever actually looked inside a Bible before either.

    Here is one such example of the above-mentioned unhinged hysterics: Evil Bible – Ritual Human Sacrifice.

    So here I present to you a systematic debunking of this puerile, amateurish claim that the Christian God demands human sacrifice.

    You will see how logic and reason will easily dismiss such shallow polemic attacks by noobs, and how making such Scripturally uneducated accusations is only possible through a total ignorance of the detailed system of Mosaic laws.

    First, relevant excerpts from the passage in question with emphasis added (which many anti-Christian myth-spreaders will be reading for the first time ever, if they even bother to read it below at all):

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    Judges 11

    1 Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty warrior.

    4 Some time later, when the Ammonites made war on Israel, 5 the elders of Gilead went to get Jephthah from the land of Tob. 6 “Come,” they said, “be our commander, so we can fight the Ammonites.”

    12 Then Jephthah sent messengers to the Ammonite king with the question: “What do you have against us that you have attacked our country?”

    13 The king of the Ammonites answered Jephthah’s messengers, “When Israel came up out of Egypt, they took away my land from the Arnon to the Jabbok, all the way to the Jordan. Now give it back peaceably.”

    14 Jephthah sent back messengers to the Ammonite king, 15 saying:
    “This is what Jephthah says: Israel did not take the land of Moab or the land of the Ammonites.”

    19 “Israel sent messengers to Sihon king of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon, and said to him, ‘Let us pass through your country to our own place.’ 20 Sihon, however, did not trust Israel to pass through his territory. He mustered all his men and encamped at Jahaz and fought with Israel.

    21 “Then the LORD, the God of Israel, gave Sihon and all his men into Israel’s hands, and they defeated them. Israel took over all the land of the Amorites who lived in that country, 22 capturing all of it from the Arnon to the Jabbok and from the desert to the Jordan.

    23 “Now since the LORD, the God of Israel, has driven the Amorites out before his people Israel, what right have you to take it over? 26 For three hundred years Israel occupied Heshbon, Aroer, the surrounding settlements and all the towns along the Arnon. Why didn’t you retake them during that time? 27 I have not wronged you, but you are doing me wrong by waging war against me. Let the LORD, the Judge, decide the dispute this day between the Israelites and the Ammonites.”

    28 The king of Ammon, however, paid no attention to the message Jephthah sent him.

    29 Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites.

    30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD : “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”

    32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.

    34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of tambourines! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh! My daughter! You have made me miserable and wretched, because I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break.”

    36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the LORD. Do to me just as you promised, now that the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”

    38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and the girls went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.
    From this comes the Israelite custom 40 that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite.

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    And now for the complete and total refutation, presented in five simple points:

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    1) Jephthah’s daughter was ‘sacrificed’ by becoming a nun, not by being burnt alive

    Category: Jephthah did not murder-sacrifice his daughter

    The clues that lead to this logical conclusion are found in verses 37-39:

    37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”

    38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and the girls went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.

    Why such a focus on the fact that Jephthah’s daughter ‘will never marry’?

    Wouldn’t we expect Jephthah’s daughter to weep in the hills for two months over the fact that she was going to die, instead of mourning that she would never experience the joys of sex? Kind of fretting over the least pressing concern, if she were really condemned to die, isn’t it?

    And why does it end with the words, ‘And she was a virgin.’?

    Shouldn’t it rather end with something like, ‘And she was set on fire and died in screaming agony, a pleasing sound to Jephthah’s ears.’ if he really did kill her?

    All these facts makes much more sense if Jephthah’s daughter was actually ‘sacrificed’ to God by becoming a nun for the rest of her life. After all, the heart of Jephthah’s vow was to please God – and as points 3 and 5 further down this post show, burning his daughter would have achieved the exact opposite.

    Serving God for her lifetime also makes much more ‘economic sense’ than a pointless, one-shot combustion as well, if one were to be mercenary about it.

    And though it was Jephthah’s vow that leads to his daughter’s personal sacrifice, note that Verse 36 clearly shows her personal willingness to make such a sacrifice for God. It is a choice made of her own free will.

    If you object that verse 31 clearly mentions a ‘burnt offering’, then see the next point.

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    2) Jephthah originally stated his intention to give a burnt offering, but that doesn’t mean he had to burn whatever he eventually offered

    Category: Jephthah did not murder-sacrifice his daughter

    Jephthah’s mention of an offering by fire is found in verse 30:

    30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD : “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”

    Clearly, Jephthah expected that a living creature would come out and meet him as he reached home – in his mind a farm animal, and likely divinely orchestrated by God as the animal God wanted as a sacrifice.

    Unfortunately, the living being that met him first was his only daughter, and due to the way he phrased his vow, he would have to offer her up to God. But does this mean that Jephthah necessarily had to offer her to God by fire?

    Let’s envision a different scenario: As Jephthah returns home from war, the first thing that comes out of his house to meet him is… A stone pestle, thrown by his wife who is mad that he was off gallavanting around for so long. (Just for good measure, it bounces off his head with a resounding BONK.)

    Yes, now Jephthah must offer that rock implement to God in sacrifice, because the way he phrased his vow does not exclude nonliving objects coming out to meet him!

    But does this mean he has to offer the stone pestle by fire? What, you expect him to literally try and ‘cut its throat’ and let it bleed to death before cutting it into parts, some of which will be given to the priests for dinner?

    And imagine the poor priests who would have to ‘burn up’ that rock as a pleasing aroma to God. They would be keeping the altar fire going day and night attempting to do so, and would still have been trying to ‘burn’ it when Jerusalem fell a few hundred years later.

    Nonsense? You bet it is.

    That’s because Old Testament Mosaic Law (i.e. the Laws given to Israel by God through Moses) presribes completely different methods for offering different things as a sacrifice to God. Even a burnt offering is not so simple as ‘Tie to a stake, set on fire, pray’ as point 3 below will show.

    Jephthah would probably have broken the stone pestle to pieces in order to offer it up to God – if in fact such an item had been the first thing to meet him as he returned from victory.

    And likewise, he would have dedicated his daughter to God by allowing her to serve as a nun the rest of her life.

    (In fact, though I’m not 100% sure, there may exist a contingency in Leviticus 27 whereby a person or other object meant to be dedicated to God can be redeemed for an amount of money:

    1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If anyone makes a special vow to dedicate persons to the LORD by giving equivalent values, 3 set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and sixty at fifty shekels of silver, according to the sanctuary shekel; 4 and if it is a female, set her value at thirty shekels.

    So not only did Jephthah not intend to dedicate his daughter to God by burning her, he could even have ‘bought’ her back from nunhood according to Mosaic law. But as I said in Point 1, Jephthah’s daughter willingly agreed to serve God herself.)

    So as I have demonstrated, Jephthah’s intention to offer a burnt offering does not automatically dictate the method by which he ultimately offers up his sacrifice to God.

    And note that burnt offerings are not simply anything that is combusted in fire to God. Following strict and specific Mosaic laws of sacrifice, only a few specific animals are acceptable as a burnt offering to God. See the next point which focuses on that aspect.

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    3) The Mosaic Laws for sacrifice and for daily life forbid human sacrifice of any sort

    Category: Jephthah did not murder-sacrifice his daughter

    One of the things about the Mosaic Laws of sacrifice is that they are very specific and exclusive.

    Perhaps the first and most important regulation is that only the ordained priests of God who are direct descendants from Aaron were allowed to offer sacrifices to God on behalf of anyone – not even a king could perform this task.

    These priests spent their entire lives memorizing and carefully carrying out the aspects of the Law given through Moses, particularly regarding their role in offering sacrifices. Therefore they would know for certain what was or was not considered an acceptable sacrifice to God.

    In fact, the Hebrew word translated as ‘burnt offering’ in Judges 11:31 is the exact same word as that in the section of the Law pertaining to burnt sacrifices, Leviticus 1:3 – ‘olah, Strong’s number H5930.

    So here I list down the various laws regarding sacrifices that immediately exclude the possibility that Jephthah’s daughter was an acceptable burnt offering:

    Only young bulls, sheep, goats or doves/pigeons are acceptable as burnt offerings – nothing else.

    Plus, if it is a bull, sheep or goat, it has to be a male. Recall that Jephthah’s daughter is female (duh). Pigeons are probably exempted from the ‘male’ criteria as it is difficult to tell their gender.

    Grain, incense, oil and salt is also burnt up, but is counted as a ‘grain offering’ or other types of offering, and not the specifically named ‘burnt offering’. All these types of offering only involves plant-derived produce, by the way – the ‘grain offering’ is specifically one without blood.

    Of the various sacrifices of animals, grain, oil, salt, incense, drink or others, humans are nowhere mentioned as an acceptable sacrifice.

    The priests are supposed to eat a portion of the burnt offering that is set aside for them – but human flesh is not even ‘kosher’ to be consumed.

    And not to mention the Mosaic Laws that preclude taking the life of a person as a crime punishable by death, first and foremost of all Number 6 of the Ten Commandments: You shall not murder.

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    4) No matter what Jephthah did or did not do, God is not to blame for it

    Category: God did not command or approve of human sacrifice

    Okay, so let’s say that despite all the evidence and reason I have just put forward, you still stubbornly refuse to let Jephthah off the hook.

    In defiance of all logic and law, you insist that he MUST have burnt his daughter to death because… Well, because it neatly proves your point that Christians, the Bible and God are evil, and you already KNOW that they are evil, so you must be right about Judges 11 too.

    But even if we assume that the virginity references were included because the burnt ashes of a virgin are somehow different from the burnt ashes of a prostitute, that Jephthah was mindlessly literal about his oaths and heartless to boot, and that the holy priests were happy to cut up and burn and eat a young girl…

    That does not mean God Himself approved of it.

    In fact, God is not mentioned as appearing or speaking at all in the entire of Judges 11. The closest the chapter comes is verse 29, where the Spirit of the LORD comes upon Jephthah.

    (And lest you be confused, this does not refer to mind control by God. Humans always retain their own free will to choose their own actions, one of the most important considerations that God made as far back as the Garden of Eden.)

    So God definitely was not the one who decided on a ‘human burnt offering’.

    Just because something is mentioned in the Bible, doesn’t mean that the Bible approves of it. There are plenty of records of people, kings and even prophets sinning – lying, murder, adultery, betrayal, mocking Jesus – but such behaviour is denounced, not approved of, DUH.

    To equate an imperfect man’s actions in the name of God to God Himself ordering or sanctioning such behaviour is a fallacy. It’s like condemning all science as a dementedly evil endeavor just because a psychotic phrenologist one day kills someone ‘in the name of science’.

    And as the final point will demonstrate, the God of the Bible actually strongly hates and repeatedly condemns human sacrifice – a fact which shows up claims that God wanted Jephthah to sacrifice his daughter to be patently absurd.

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    5) God declares His hatred of human sacrifice many times (versus one alleged sanctioning of human sacrifice)

    Category: God did not command or approve of human sacrifice

    A thought exercise first: Let’s say that a certain politician is well known to be a staunch opponent of abortion. Countless TV and radio recordings show him vehemently denouncing abortion as evil, ungodly and a sin.

    Then out of the blue, a lone blogger claims that a secret recording of this politician’s unreleased 30-minute Presidential Candidacy speech contains 2 seconds of sound bites where he fully supports abortion as a God-given, inalieable, moral and ethical human right.

    Would you immediately believe this isolated claim of said politician’s pro-abortion stance, over the thousands of minutes of public anti-abortion speeches he has given before?

    Isn’t it more likely that that one incident of a supposed declaration of pro-abortion is a misunderstanding on the blogger’s part?

    Now with this perspective, you realize just how narrow and selective the Anti-Christian polemic’s field of vision is when they questionably claim that Judges 11 and a few other out-of-context verses debatably support human saccrifice to God, while amaeteurishly/intentionally ignoring the many passages that clearly condemn human sacrifice.

    I mean, just look at the number of individual, separate times the Bible clearly and directly denounces human sacrifice (especially of children and babies) as evil:

    Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.
    – Leviticus 18:21

    The LORD said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites: ‘Any Israelite or any alien living in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be put to death. The people of the community are to stone him. I will set my face against that man and I will cut him off from his people; for by giving his children to Molech, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. If the people of the community close their eyes when that man gives one of his children to Molech and they fail to put him to death, I will set my face against that man and his family and will cut off from their people both him and all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molech. – Leviticus 20:1-5;

    You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. – Deuteronomy 12:31

    When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. – Deuteronomy 18:9-12

    He walked in the ways of the kings of Israel and even sacrificed his son in the fire, following the detestable ways of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites. – 2nd Kings 16:3 (referring to the ungodly kings of Israel after David and Solomon)

    He sacrificed his own son in the fire, practiced sorcery and divination, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger. – 2nd Kings 21:6

    He desecrated Topheth, which was in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, so no one could use it to sacrifice his son or daughter in the fire to Molech. – 2nd Kings 23:10

    For they have forsaken me and made this a place of foreign gods; they have burned sacrifices in it to gods that neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah ever knew, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. They have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind. – Jeremiah 19:4-5

    They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molech, though I never commanded, nor did it enter my mind, that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin. – Jeremiah 32:35

    They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood. – Psalm 106:38

    When you offer your gifts — the sacrifice of your sons in the fire — you continue to defile yourselves with all your idols to this day. Am I to let you inquire of me, O house of Israel? As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I will not let you inquire of me. – Ezekiel 20:31

    Debunking The Myth That Jephthah Burns His Daughter As A Human Sacrifice to God
    http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/captain-planet-lied-to-me/

    Did Jephthah really sacrifice his daughter?
    http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jepthah.html

    you see now atheist i don’t even have to say anything about that issue because as two of the examples from many theologians and the bible it self disagree with your accusations.

    • Long comment is long. Nice refutation on Jephthah, but no one can readily defend the first items unless they are really sick in the head. :)

    • Lame one my friend… ^_^

      “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.” 32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon. 34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break.

      You’re the one misinterpreting it, it is written.. Burnt Sacrifice….tsk… try next time bud… tsk..

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